In this episode of SMR, Sean Morgan interviews Bernie Suarez about the role that Ron DeSantis and Mike Pence may be playing as secret allies of Trump. Next, John Michael Chambers makes a special announcement.
Are you looking for a fresh perspective on the world of politics? Join us in an intriguing discussion featuring the founder of Truth and Art TV, Bernie Suarez. We delve deep into the world of influence operations and media narratives, unraveling the complexities and hidden agendas of both the right and left. The conversation takes us through the Q Intel drops, the Biden laptop saga and the rising popularity of Trump amidst perceptions of persecution. We also examine the media's portrayal of Ron DeSantis, and how it's making Trump look more likable in comparison.
Turning our attention to the 2024 campaigns, we ponder on Trump's strategies and how he may be conducting his own influence operations. We ponder on Mike Pence's role, the spat with DeSantis, and the mysterious silence around Vivek Ramaswamy. Our conversation offers unique insights into how Trump might be manipulating public sentiments for his political advantage. Finally, we conclude with a special announcement from John Michael Chambers. He's returning to broadcasting with his show, '40,000-foot View, Engaging Conversations'. John shares his personal journey with COVID-19 and lays out his plans to inspire viewers to be active participants in the journey to save America. Join us for a riveting conversation that provides an insider's view into the world of politics, influence ops, and the fight to save America.
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That's a great question. Well, that's a really good question. It's a great question. Well, you're right.Speaker 2:
Well, Bernie Suarez is the founder of Truth and Art TV. Bernie, great to have you back in the program. What kind of media stories have you been analyzing? I've been shocked by the murder mystery at the Obama compound, for example.Speaker 1:
Well, sean, thanks for having me on here today. There's a lot going on on my platform for many, many years, especially now. We're covering a lot of stories both on the right and left of the spectrum the Obama story you can put that right next to some of these other mysterious situations. All of a sudden, everyone's talking about UFOs and all of a sudden, you have these weird mysteries that are unfolding. I read something earlier today A lot of people I mean there's a lot of distractions going on. One of the big things I want to take advantage of right here today, now that you have me on your show, is to share with everyone that we are right now being subjected to influence operations both on the right and the left, and anyone who follows my work knows I've been very focused and very adamant about what I call the online research project, which obviously the Q Intel drops. Once you understand the information that we were given on, the Intel drops from 2017 to 2020, you're going to understand things that are unfolding today because we have a lot of distractions. We had the only platform that gave us the information about that we were going to have to walk through darkness and the only platform that gave us information about it had to be this way and it had to be done this way. The only platform now as I've been sharing with my audience that back in June of 2020, essentially almost foretold all this craziness that's happening with the Biden laptop and the Biden family, all these revelations that are happening the only platform that really laid this out was the Intel drops, the Q drops and what I call the online research project, this information that is now coming to life. Once you understand that, you're going to understand why we were told in June of 2022, last year, that, okay, it had to be done this way. And shall we play a game once more indicating that everything that we witnessed, john, from January 6th of 2021, all the way through, we have been subjected to a sequence of events that is going to dictate what will soon be happening over the next 15 months, because everyone thinks that there's going to be an election in 2024, and there may or may not. I don't know anything, but I am looking at the pattern of these narratives as they are unfolding and let me just add a couple things. Everything that we have been told is unfolding, john, and when you look at the 2022 midterms, we see now that all of a sudden, as I am discussing with my audience, you have this person that Trump endorsed not once but twice, who happens to have a military background, is being put in the forefront Obviously, I am referring to Ron DeSantis and now you have the left wing media and the right wing media both attacking him and then, right after that, in November 2022, you have Trump all of a sudden pushing polls, polls, polls, polls, polls, polls. So I am asking everyone to listen carefully to what I am saying. We have been are we being subjected to what I call the super-sci-up polls, polls narrative? And again, for good reason, not for negative reason. So if everyone is focusing on this poll and that polls are everything, when before November of 2022, you would have asked anyone in the MAGA movement, everybody would have told you that polls mean nothing. But all of a sudden, polls mean everything. And if you look at that, this polls narrative that has been spearheaded by what I call we, a lot of us called the conductor Trump. The conductor who is, I think, the president, trump is guiding a lot of narratives, for the better, for the worse. I think it's for the better, because nothing can stop what's coming. So everyone is overly focusing on polls Polls that before November of 2022, no one would have otherwise have cared about polls and they're using the polls operation essentially to dictate additional narratives. And one of the key narratives that they've used they, the White hats I think it's fifth generation warper were watching. They're using the polls narrative to essentially say you see, trump not only is leading, but Trump being persecuted by Jack Smith and by Fannie Mae now right, excuse me, fannie Willis, right, and all these persecutions of Trump appear even more disastrous and more they're. Essentially, the persecution of Trump is more effective when you believe the polls and if you believe that Trump is that much ahead of everyone which I believe he is, he's the most popular candidate then that makes sense to have all these polls every single day, sean, we're being subjected to like millions of polls and don't look now. In the last six months, we've heard more story every day Sean, polls, polls, polls, polls. And I've been warning and showing my audience folks has anyone ever heard of this many polls? But again, with once you understand that what I think is a super psi up polls operation, again, it sets the stage for showing the world everyone on the left right, anyone that Trump is being persecuted and people on the left are seeing it, and and then you roll out this round to Santis, put him to the right of Trump, making him look scary. The Santis puts out all these videos well, a couple of videos, almost like deliberately trying to sound scary and all of a sudden, on the left MSNBC, cnn, all of them saying you know what, compared to the Santis, trump is kind of likable. I'm showing my audience these video highlights, and so there's another potential purpose of this polls operation and this whole dissent to saying, all of which started November 2022. And again, I'm asking people to look at the big picture. That is what we do on my channel. We're looking at the big picture. Look at the situation from December 2020, november 2020, where, again, after the election steal, after the 11 three steal, this simple website that nobody seems to be able to take down, and the simple website told us what that we were going to walk through darkness. So I asked people to, on their own, figure it out. What is the only platform anywhere on this planet that foretold to us that we were going to walk through darkness? After the election, we were told this, and before Mike Pence met with acting secretary defense, chris Miller, in late December 2020, before Bill Barr walks away and before the January 6 situation unfolds, where Trump asked everyone yeah, let's march peacefully to the Capitol. So a lot of events have happened, and should we mention all of these other narratives that we have been observing the last several years, starting late December, early January of 2020 and 2021 respectively, when we were told, yeah, we've got the crack in here, let's release the crack in? And we have served some people out there saying, yeah, trump's going to get in 10 out of 10 for sure. And then you have Trump meeting secretly with Kevin McCarthy in January and February of 2021. Look that up, because everybody was blown away saying how did Bernie know? It's not how Bernie knew. We were shown this in the news. We were, we were. People were not. People were too busy with the emotion of J six, that they were not paying attention. And, sean, the reason I'm saying all of this is everyone should ask themselves are we, are we being led? Is the mega crowd being led in a certain direction for a reason, on purpose, and obviously nobody knows how this is going to end. But don't look now, here, today, now you have Jack Smith piling on. What? Three more charges on President Trump, and it's only getting worse. The enemy is desperate, so everyone should get ready. There are several scenarios that are going to unfold, and maybe we can talk about that some other time, but all right, what do you think of that?Speaker 2:
All right. Well, you talked about influence operations on the left and the right. You talked about the white hats and obviously, the enemy with their influence operations, and I always wonder about these public spats that Trump has with Pence, with Ron DeSantis, bill Barr, jeff Sessions. You know there's some things that are just a little bit too TV drama like to be real and yet there's no other way for the mainstream media to interpret these spats than literally, and that's the way that the general public digest them. But people who look a little deeper can see other strategies playing. So I want to get your perspective. We're going to take a quick break first, but when we come back, I want to ask you about the VP pick and the campaign for 2024 and what direction we might be being led and what role Pence and DeSantis might be playing if they're secret allies with Trump. Let's talk about that as soon as you get back. We are talking to Bernie Suarez about the 2024 campaign, about possible VP pick for Trump, and isn't it interesting, bernie, that Pence has not been fully thrown under the bus by Trump. He occasionally throws a couple of nice words about Pence. Pence is in this weird middle ground where he's not a full enemy of MAGA, but he's definitely not an ally, and we've heard of the kiss of death of Pence. Everyone that he endorses ends up losing. Could there be a strategy with that? And then you mentioned DeSantis being endorsed two times by Trump and that he has a military background, so could this whole public spat be a charade? Tell me about your thoughts of how Trump might be conducting an orchestra here.Speaker 1:
Yeah, sean, of course everyone should remember that Trump is literally an actor number one. Trump literally was in this show, the Apprentice, where his job was to hire the right people, and one of the things I've been talking about on my channel for a couple of weeks now is that everyone has to decide who do they think Trump is. Is he this guy that doesn't know who to hire? He doesn't know how to pick a vice president. He doesn't know how to hire an attorney general. He keeps failing. He hired, I guess, this wrong FBI director and then he kept them on. I mean, why would you even want to reelect someone who doesn't know who to hire? And Trump is feeding into this the other day saying, yeah, I was new to DC and I kept asking Melania, what do you think? And this kind of jokey stuff. So, to answer your question, absolutely we are watching this actor from New York, this Hollywood guy who's brilliant, leading us in various various influence operations. You're right to point out that he never really attacks Mike Pence. I've pointed that out for years on my channel and again he met with Mike Pence. Everyone should remember, right after January 6th about a week later I think it was on that Wednesday he met with Mike Pence and just asked Jack's Psobic because he even said it and it was in a Breitbart article documented that Trump said after that meeting that he would recommend Mike Pence for future president if he himself did not run. So yeah, people should look at these things. So, and then you know we talked a little bit already about the Santas military background Trump complaining for six months straight, really more than that, really like eight months straight. And at one point, sean I think it was from like January to like June he was literally desentimonious, desentimonious, literally attacking Descentis beyond the normal distribution curve. You would never, even if you thought that this guy was going to challenge your position, you would kind of give it up after a year or so. I mean, if you're leading him in the polls by that much, and now we have Vivek Ramaswamy, I mean who is this guy? So why is he not attacking Vivek Ramaswamy? That we're being told in these influence operations that according, based on one poll, that Vivek is now the top guy behind, above Descentis, suppose, and we have Descentis. His team is reacting to these polls where no one if we're going to use that standard, then Pence and Nikki Haley, maybe even Tim Scott, everybody. They should fire their staff as well If you're going to fire staff based on the results of a poll. So, um, all of that culminates into, again, a simple message that I would package that into one simple thing. As I've told my audience many times, influence operations are real and they're designed to influence everyone, not just people on the left. We can easily observe the results of these influence operations we're seeing right now on the left where CNN and MSNBC they're talking about Trump like he's more likable and the census is more dangerous than Trump. When have they ever talked this way? So, yeah, I think everyone's being pushed in a certain direction. We're almost six months away, just under six months away, from the first primary. Everyone is reacting to these polls and it's up to us to now, I believe, step back, look at what's happened the last two and a half, three years, like I talked about earlier, and ask ourselves what direction are we being led? What event are we being walked into in this next episode of the movie, if you would?Speaker 2:
Of the apprentice 3.0. I'm thinking right now about Pence and DeSantis and about how the enemy uses controlled opposition to control both sides. The White Hats can do the same thing. They can have their controlled opposition as well If Pence and DeSantis one or the other. Both are allies with Trump. One of the things they've accomplished is they flushed out the people who have actually been fake Trump supporters. They've been able to garner all of that conservative Republican donor money and thrown it down the toilet so it couldn't go to anywhere actually productive against Trump. Anything else coming to your mind of what the strategy would be?Speaker 1:
Yeah. Also, it allows Trump to distance himself, which is what he's doing right now. He's distancing himself from DeSantis. So, whatever happens, he could say look, everybody knows that him and I have nothing to do with each other. We've been fighting for a long time and here's something to observe, Sean. Also, I observe that in every case, whether it's DeSantis or whether it's Pence or whether it's any of these potentially other controlled oppositions, the one thing they all have in common is they never really fight back against Trump. They never try to insult him in return. We saw that with Jeff Sessions. We've seen that. Think about it, Sean, Trump doesn't really even insult Christopher Wray. If you think about it, you rarely hear Trump flat out call out Christopher Wray. And if you think about it, he attacked Jeff Sessions more than he attacks Christopher Wray. In fact, he even cost Jeff Sessions his Senate run in Alabama in 2020. So I've speculated, Sean that was the Trump attacks of Jeff Sessions in 2020, when he cost Jeff Sessions his Senate seat. Was that a test run to see how effective the Trump cards are?Speaker 2:
It is interesting to note and it makes you wonder why DeSantis doesn't really take the gloves off. He's. It's his opponent. You know you're supposed to drag them through the mud. Same thing with Pence. They've said some disparaging remarks, but nothing like traditional politics would allow, and it makes you wonder why I mean one obvious reason would be because everyone supports Trump. So the more you attack Trump, the less people like you. But then again, at some point you have to realize you're the opposition to Trump and you have to go against him. So either way, everyone's set up to fail. Who goes up against Trump? What about RFK? You know you've got 30 seconds. I know you're not a kind of person who likes to cram everything into that amount of time. But your closing remark about RFK and the role he's playing I think he's another person to keep an eye on.Speaker 1:
I think he's contributed to the optics. We saw what the Democrats did the other day. They try to censor him in a censorship hearing. Everybody knows where RFK stands on when it comes to the COVID issue and the COVID shots, so I think that's that goes along with everything that's happening the Fauci, the fraud lately, with these emails coming out as the White House continued to release critical information. And then you see that we had Rand Paul stepping it up against Fauci. The very next day, Boom, his office is set on fire. People should pay attention to that, that kind of goes along with the Obama chef situation.Speaker 2:
Weird things happening. This is the type of stuff that you're analyzing in your live streams on Truth and Art TV, so make sure you check out Bernie's channel and the link in the description below. Thank you, bernie, for doing what you do. Thanks for coming on the show. Thanks, john. Next up, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, john Michael Chambers has a special announcement.Speaker 3:
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You can get your free gold consultation by clicking on the link in the description below. Well, John Michael Chambers is an author, public speaker and the founder of American Media Parascope. He's returning to broadcasting and here he is to talk about his new show, 40,000-foot View, Engaging Conversations Premieres Friday, August 4th here on AMP News. So, John, thank you so much for coming on the program. It's been a while since we've gotten to talk and people have been able to connect with you. They want an update on what you've been up to.Speaker 4:
Well, thanks for having me on the Morgan Report here, and I do want to let the audience know this particular broadcast right now is being delivered to you from three different countries. I'm stationed here in Thailand at the moment, sean, of course, is in Brazil and our producer is in the great, the once great United States of America that we, the people, are going to resurrect and reinstate our constitutional republic. So the show, as you mentioned, is called the 40,000-foot View, engaging Conversations and folks. I don't need to report news in the format of our news broadcasting, because that's already being done by our show hosts and many other influence outside of the AMP network. What I intend to do is, just as the title suggests, I want to provide a 40,000-foot View. It's a 30-minute show once a month, at least as the launchpad to reconnect with the audience, because when I get out there and speak at the General Flynn, clay Clock, reawaken America tour, I've come to learn that I'm not out of sight, out of mind. People are wondering about my health and where I've been and what I've been doing, and so I'm going to actually cover that on a show with Unrestricted Truths with James Grunwig, dr Mark Sherwood, my doctor, one of my doctors, and Chris Edelkamp, the CEO of American Media Periscope. Three of us will be a guest on Unrestricted Truths, coming up in a week or so with James Grunwig, where we'll do one-hour show focused strictly and solely on what I've been through with my health being the recipient of graphene oxide, spike proteins from the transmission that I did not take the Vax and being a COVID long hauler and how I almost lost my life. And the reason I'm willing to share all of that on a broadcast with my doctor and Chris is because I think there's a lot of value in my journey that people can learn about. But anyway, I'm back with the 40,000-foot view of once a month show. I'm, of course, working very hard behind the scenes developing and growing American Media Periscope to be the best we can be in trusted news here in this war. But what I intend to do, sean, on this show is to make sure is provide elements of fact, of course, of the things that we've just been through in the previous month and tie it all together. Folks, if you wanna watch the show, you'll come there and you'll get the summary from my perspective of where we are at in this war, and one of the themes in my show will be, to make no mistake about it, the fact that we are winning this war. And, yes, the dangers are before us and they will get worse Before things get better, but we're winning, and that'll be a theme I wanna provide the hope in the faith, hope and love not hopeium, but hope based on my analysis. So I'm gonna connect dots for everybody on what's going on in this battle. I also wanna talk about action. Saving America is not a spectator sport. Redirecting humanity on this much needed course correction is critically important, and so I will cover ways and hopefully inspire the viewers to get out there and multiple different things that people can and should be doing to get some skin in this game to save this country. Sean, the pecking order from my perspective is God, trump and the White Hats and everyone listening to this broadcast, and you and I, sean. That's the only way we have to unite, and with that unity, with everyone having a marching order of sorts, we can resurrect this country and save America, and we will do that. I'm also going to provide a personal direct email to me on the program so I can further the conversation one-on-one via emails. I wanna reconnect with the audience to the best of my ability depending on how many emails come in to keep us united and keep us with the marching orders we need.Speaker 2:
It is so much like a battle report to what you're doing here, because you got your ear to the ground, you have your sources, you've got all the show hosts at AMP who are doing their own analysis, 24-7, reporting to you, and you are gonna be providing that intel to our AMP audience, giving them that intel, giving them updates on the battles that we're winning, maybe some that we're losing, and how they can be activated. So this is really an interesting concept for a show. Are you gonna be interviewing anyone or is it just going to be you and the camera directly to the audience?Speaker 4:
I just wanna join our audience in their living room or their kitchen or wherever they may be in their car, listening on a candid, narrative discussion as brothers and sisters, family and friends, because that's what we are, and it'll be a candid, narrative, straight conversation. There will not be any guests. I mean on a rare occasion I might. Having said that, I do wanna announce that I will have a behind the scenes. I'm gonna open up the show, sharing with our audience, in a quick five minute segment, things that happen behind the scenes, conversations I have with people well known and people not well known. For example, I'll share in the premier show August 4th at 10 pm on American Media Periscope ampnewsus. I will be sharing what happened two years ago when I and about 1500 patriots and influencers and some powerful and important people were invited to Las Vegas for a private screening of Sound of Freedom, which I saw, like I said, about two years ago. Jim Caviesal was there. We had a conversation. He had a conversation with us. I'm gonna share some of that. I'm gonna talk a little bit about some things. I know what's going on with Mel Gibson. You know behind the scenes info from the people that are in my year and I wanna share what I'm able to with our audience on this show, just as a matter of interesting stuff they're not gonna hear anywhere else. But make no mistake about it, folks. I will capture where we're at presently from my perspective and where I believe we're heading, and provide some new and additional insights into the things that are happening, like, for example, what's about to happen to Donald Trump and where this will end up. I'm gonna talk about the dollar destruction and I'm gonna challenge the narrative that a lot of us are putting out there. Last thing I wanna say Sean is one oh seven. I spent three and a half hours with one yesterday. I haven't talked to him in quite some time and an idea hit me and I'm gonna incorporate it into the 40,000 foot view show A five minute audio segment with one oh seven like you've never seen or heard him before. Mark my words, folks. It'll be challenging for some to listen to what he'll have to say and for others it'll just send them down rabbit holes all day long to go have some fun and discover new things. So the reason I stepped away from the camera, folks, was I was very ill and got past that. So check out the Unrestricted Truth Show, where I'll go over all that. And the other reason I stepped back is because AMP is much bigger than me and so I had to work on American media periscope to become a trusted news network as we become, thanks to Sean Morgan, thanks to Jason Burmese, thanks to everyone behind the scenes, thanks to James Grundwig and all of our show hosts for doing an incredible job. Mine will not be a news format. I will provide a conversation with everyone to help make sense of the madness.Speaker 2:
Well, you've been doing these internal battle reports for AMP and it's been so valuable to us hearing your analysis. When you stepped away from the camera, you never stepped away from following what's been going on, and people miss you and your insights. So it's gonna be a great show and I'm gonna tune in every time. So thank you, john, for coming back. We missed you, thank you, Sean.Speaker 4:
Thanks for everything you're doing.Speaker 2:
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