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Breaking History Ep 7: Delving into the UFOS, Secret Societies, and Mind Control: An Exposé on Elite Manipulation
Brace yourself for a mind-bending journey into the realm of UFOs and secret societies! Our esteemed guest, Matthew Erich from the Rising Tide Foundation, unveils the intricacies of the recent UFO limited hangout that's been making waves in the media and government circles. We unravel the smoke and mirrors of this systemic crisis, spotlighting the real story lurking behind the shadows. From Tom DeLonge's mysterious transition from Blink 182 singer to UFO disclosure advocate to the billionaires molding the UFO narrative, we expose it all.
The plot thickens as we expose the intricate web connecting the British intelligence, Hollywood, and UFOs. We shed light on the UK Ministry of Defense's Flying Saucer Working Group's influence on public perception, along with the controversial meeting between Sir Henry Tizard, Oman Salant, and CIA representatives. But that's not all! We also delve into the chilling world of trauma-based mind control, decoding how psychological torture and 'alien invasions' are wielded as tools of manipulation.
Hold onto your seats as we dig into the sinister side of spiritual manipulation and its ties to elite forces. We walk you through the horrors of the movie industry, black metal music, and their role in trauma-based mind control. We explore how the Roman pantheon impacts the creation of synthetic cults, and the part played by MKULTRA and LSD. Get ready to challenge your perceptions, and discover how self-reflection and examination can be utilized to resist manipulation. Prepare for an eye-opening journey that will leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about UFOs and more!
Welcome to Breaking History. My name is Sean Morgan, I'm a host at AMP News and I'm here with Matthew Erich from the Rising Tide Foundation. Today we've got an interesting episode about the UFO limited hangout. That has been unfolding for decades, but it's really heated up recently, Matt. Why is this something that you think is really important for people to understand?
Speaker 2:Well, sean, I think that right now there's a lot. Obviously you can't really avoid it. You have to be living under a rock to ignore the fact that, whether it's in the Pentagon, whether it's in the Congress, the Senate, other governments, the Canadian government, there is an amplification of messaging going on in almost a coordinated way to get us to really really pay attention to something that is supposed to have been kept under in backdoor shady, smoky rooms, under classified documents, as the world's biggest secret for decades and decades and decades, throughout the whole Cold War. All of a sudden, we're all supposed to think about UFOs and otherworldly material that has been used by our military systems for the past decades that could not be accounted for as having been generated from anywhere on the earth. So all of this sort of thing is coming out.
Speaker 2:You've got it in pop culture. Obviously, when people go to a movie or you look at what Netflix shows you're being asked to watch. There's obviously a lot of synergy with the sort of messaging that we're getting from the news media now. Even like strange metallic orbs just popping up on Japanese beaches then people stop talking about it or UFOs coming into the United States from Canada getting shot down apparently by American F-16 fighter jets that can somehow shoot down these objects that got here traveling millions of light years and get shot down by American fighter jets.
Speaker 1:Sounds like it's Hollywood, but Hollywood played a big role, hasn't it, for shaping the way we think about this.
Speaker 2:That's right, and I think it's important just to take a little step back. We are living through a moment of deep crisis. There's a systemic crisis going on. The whole system that was brought online back in the early 70s and the wake of the murder of Bobby Kennedy, john F Kennedy and so many other leaders who were anti-imperial during the 60s were cut down by our intelligence agencies. They created a new system and that system is based upon creating speculative bubbles out of debt that is tied to no real value but that is designed to blow. So now it's blowing. Now we've got a crisis over what type of system is going to replace the currently collapsing order. So, of course, of course, it's important to focus on the fire if we're going to be very serious about saving our children, our nations and our posterity from the flames that will emerge and will do a lot of damage if we're not very disciplined and clear in our minds about focusing on what is the real issues and not getting distracted by a lot of PSY-ops, which are everywhere.
Speaker 1:Well, that's very important. You talk about focus and the public focusing on the things that matter, and then you use the word distraction and PSY-ops. So do we have proof that the media or the government have used UFOs as a distraction ploy in the past?
Speaker 2:Well, yes, we do, and we're going to go through some of that today. I'm going to actually try. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But I'm going to try to share a few slides that I prepared. But we didn't do a little exercise to test this out, so if it doesn't work, I'll go vocally. But before that, I wanted to start.
Speaker 2:A chapter in my new book deals with the UFO, psy-op in great detail, so I'm going to take some of the material. I'm going to add some new stuff that I just discovered this week in scratching a bit of this history. But the thing that really got me perplexed originally was an anomaly, and that anomaly was that a lot of the intelligence agencies in the present have been working with a cardboard cutout in the form of a certain figure who seems like a nice guy, a former singer from a band that a lot of people may have heard of If you were listening to music in the 1990s Blink 182. And I found a little organization that Tom DeLonge created way back in 2014 called To the Stars Academy, and I listened to his promo video for To the Stars Academy I'm just going to do a little screen share here and something interesting popped up. So let's just look at that quickly.
Speaker 2:This is his little autobiographical video describing his transition from a singer into somebody who's new life is involves working with figures within the cia, us military industrial complex, as well as the private military sector, in order to prepare the the world for accepting the disclosure of ufo's, as always having been there. But now finally, people have to be made Culturally ready to accept what they formally could not understand. So his work has been to sponsor Creative works movies, videos, tv shows, comic books that all reflect the same sort of theme. So here's him talking about how he was recruited To this new cause. So let's have a look.
Speaker 1:This is interesting to me and I think people should watch this and make observations for themselves about why this character Went from being a blink one eighty two music guy with hundreds of thousands of fans to Doing this of all things. Why him? Why now? And what way is he framing this conversation? Because you know we've talked?
Speaker 2:about the term hang out. Are you able to hear the video? No, let's start it over. Okay, all right, so jumping right about here. But were you able to hear the sound from the video?
Speaker 1:No, we needed to add it to the stream, so we just always see the streams. Oh, you did. Yeah, I can hear it now.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so everything you just said, people should keep all of that in mind, so let's watch this thing.
Speaker 3:Back in twenty fourteen I started to the stars, a media company that would develop science fiction based films, books, tv shows, comics, all of it. But I really wanted to make this new project more ambitious, more impactful and to have a make a lasting impression on people's lives. I recognize that there were people in government that wanted to engage the public on topics that unfortunately had a stigma, even though they were based in scientific fact. At the time, there was no mechanism for them to do this. Through a series of meetings, I was soon connected to a large group of US government officials from the CIA, the Department of Defense and Lockheed Martin Skunk Works. These guys were the ones involved in the secret of US government programs that dealt with these subjects, and they have all taken tremendous risks to themselves and their reputations to do something that can benefit the world. They wanted to be a part of something special, to be a part of a company that could not only change the way we see ourselves, but also change the path humanity is on.
Speaker 3:We created a company called to the stars Academy of Arts and Science. As a team, we synergistically united our strengths with the entertainment division. We create worlds, science fiction stories that inspire and transcend. We are a publisher, a merchandiser and a production studio. We have stories about dreams, consciousness, paranormal UFOs and many other things that once used to be taboo but, after newly declassified government documents, are now proving to be absolutely real. We even have our own reality series launching this year on the history channel, a weekly one hour series on our company and all that we do in the science division.
Speaker 3:We are building the world's first and only artificial intelligence database of unexplained events, deploying data collection teams internationally and analyzing exotic materials originating from unidentified aerial phenomena. For the first time, these opportunities are real and have the potential to completely revolutionize the way we live. And here, for the first time in history, this group of spies, aerospace engineers and secretive government officials have chosen to team up with an award winning producer to change status quo. We want to do something more than just tell a story. This time we want to be in the story and then bring it all to life educating the world, creating revolutionary technology and telling the story of the millennium, and doing it all together. There's nothing bigger to the stars Academy of Arts and Sciences, where science fiction becomes reality.
Speaker 1:Okay so here is to have John Podesta be one of these team members who just really wants to help the blink 182 guy get the truth out there. I mean, this is not a person that I trust.
Speaker 2:What a no guy. I mean, I just thought of him as being a pizza gate freak, but here we actually find he's got this noble cause for truth that he just is so passionate about, so maybe he's not such a bad guy. After. I'm going to try something now, just to dive back a little bit more into the layers of the onion. I'm going to try a screen share, and again, I know we didn't really do this as a test. So if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. So let me do a share screen. And again, it doesn't work, that's okay. Okay, so that didn't work, that's okay, alright, so we're going to do it the other way. So what I'm going to do?
Speaker 2:The thing about John Podesta. Why was John Podesta involved? Well, the thing about John Podesta is he was actually recruited to this cause. He began to speak openly, publicly, about the need for UFO disclosure way back in 2002. Originally is where he began giving speeches, and people can Google John Podesta UFO speech and find a lot of those things. Hillary Clinton also keep in mind, was calling for UFO disclosure back in her campaign elections in 2015. On top of the other figures, you have former heads of or from deputy directors of White House Office Intelligence Biowarfare, working with Tom DeLonge. And where does all of this come from? Do these people care about the truth or what? So this took me into a deeper question of well, first of all, podesta. Why was he recruited? Who recruited him?
Speaker 2:Well, there's a figure named Lawrence Rockefeller. He's the fourth grandson of John D Rockefeller, and Lawrence Rockefeller is the founder of an organization in 1991 called the Disclosure Project. Some people may have heard about that. He has a ranch in John Podesta. Hillary and Bill all went to his ranch in 1993. And on that ranch they were briefed and were basically induced to unveil, as Bill Clinton did in 1993 when he first went into office with a bunch of road scholars, the first massive batch declassification of UFO report that had been classified by the US government. Of course I mean there's tens of thousands of pages and it's pretty much all anecdotal material of people who saw stuff out of their windows throughout, you know, 40 years of Cold War.
Speaker 2:But Lawrence Rockefeller is the founder of this thing called the Disclosure Project. He early on recruited a physician bodybuilder named Stephen Greer to that organization and the purpose was really to unite all of the disparate UFO truth groups that had been operating independently under a more concentrated umbrella and converted into a little bit more of an activist orientation to lobby government officials. One of the government officials who took this on to heart is a fellow named Harry Reid who died not that long ago. And Harry Reid worked with a billionaire another billionaire it wasn't just Lawrence Rockefeller. But this other guy who also was associated with Lawrence Rockefeller was a guy named Robert Bigelow. Robert Bigelow is still alive. He's a real estate magnet. He runs a bunch of cheap hotels around the United States, deals with real estate speculation and other things, and he has been a devotee of UFO disclosure as well. And he poured money a lot of it into Harry Reid's campaign and with that money Harry Reid created the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which is behind a lot of the work to disclose and popularize the UFO story today, especially in the last three years.
Speaker 2:So you have, bigelow is part of something called the New Space Movement. That's something that people should keep in mind, because last week we talked a little bit about what JFK was doing to drive the space program as something that would be based upon creating a new system of cooperation and discoveries that would allow humanity to break free of the systems, the closed systems of the Cold War, of Empire, mutually assured destruction. People who haven't seen that video can go and look to last week's episode of Breaking History to see JFK actually offering the Russians a chance to work together. And his idea, his paradigm, involves using sovereign national power to drive a space program because the sovereign government sovereign governments. This is why the oligarchy has been trying to get rid of national sovereignty, because a government can do things that are not simply for profit, right so you can make big infrastructure projects that couldn't be done by a single corporation.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and doing things like a space program involves a lot of high risk things that would involve. You don't want to put people at risk, your pilots, a lot of R&D. You're going to take losses financially. So you have to have a very long term, multi-generational perspective and in the private sector you always want to work with the private sector. The private sector did a lot of the heavy lifting for JFK's NASA, but at the same time the environment can't be purely simply for profit alone. The nation state has to play a driving role. So the new space movement was created largely in the early 2000s after 9-11. It was already bubbling up with Lawrence Rockefeller before that with the idea that we can remove the idea of the sovereign nation state itself from the model of space development. And people like Richard Branson, jeff Bezos, mark Zook will not mark is a convert but Elon Musk, robert Bigelow these are all people who have been promoters of the or the, the faces of the new space movement. We could do it all for billionaires, for space tourism and and maybe worker interface with the military industrial complex a little bit. Starlink is a good example of one aspect of that house. Starlink and you on musk is the US military industrial complex is biggest military contractor. Starlink, has done an immense amount of work in the wars both you know internationally, the efforts to try to destabilize Iran, the efforts to you know carry out a war, proxy war, in Ukraine, all that to say, that's, that's what's been sort of bubbling up is this new model of billionaire Billionaires doing space for profit instead of the nation state. Lawrence Rockefeller is a key guy in this. There's a two authors, a husband and wife team, named Brad and Sherry Steiger. They did some pretty good research and on Lawrence Rockefeller, his other brothers are David Rockefeller, right founder of the trilateral Commission that was part of the big takeover of the US in the in the 70s. Nelson Rockefeller, another trilateral, who is almost president when Gerald Ford was nearly killed by a Manson family devotee back in I forget what year, nelson Rockefeller was vice president, of course, at the time. But also Steven Rockefeller, who during this time is the, is working with a fellow named Maury strong, a Canadian oligarch, co-founder of Davos. Maury strong, who sets up the earth charter, and the earth charter is sort of something to replace the value structures of the sovereign nation state, of the US Constitution, of even the UN Charter, which they think is Too friendly to the idea of national sovereignty. So they wanted to create a new earth charter which was drafted by Steven Rockefeller, lawrence Rockefeller's brother in 1994, 95 Gorbachev was on the drafting committee, as was Maury strong, and, and it was sponsored by the International Union for the conservation of nature. So, brad, back to Brad and Sherry Steiger.
Speaker 2:They wrote a book called conspiracies and secret societies. It's a decent little reference book and they make the point and they have good footnotes. That and I'll just quote because it's a good quote from their book when they say that, well, the Lawrence Rockefeller was the funder of the Green Earth Foundation, headed by Terrence McKenna, who traveled the globe Collecting psychoactive plants which she was permitted to cultivate in Hawaii. Mckenna theorized that Aboriginal cultures have used these substances to induce a psychic link with extraterrestrials. Lawrence Rockefeller's also.
Speaker 2:And keep in mind this is this is so people who think that Graham Hancock is all that original, you know it's being promoted out of the wazoo on Netflix, a lot of popular books, and a lot of people think, oh wow, that that is such a profound idea that maybe Jesus Christ was actually an inductee of the Illusian mysteries and through psychedelics and early LSD, plant blight.
Speaker 2:Right, because LSD itself was derived from a Back, a blight, that grew on wheat, which was apparently used and I believe that this is true in the induction into the ancient mystery schools of Babylon, persia, greece and especially the illusian mysteries. That was part of the brainwashing of the elite, but also the the creation of synthetic cults throughout the ancient times, and this is one of the feces being made popular right now by the followers of McKenna who are saying oh yeah, that's how Jesus Christ was so successful in his gospel and in his ministry, was that he actually was helping his disciples to get enlightenment and tap into the sense of the spirit through Through hallucinogenic silo side beans and and early LSD and things like that. That's actually a thing that's going on.
Speaker 1:If people don't believe me, they so Terrence McKenna started this whole thing of, and Also the whole 60s psychedelic movement was an elitist plot as well. But now you're saying Graham Hancock and of course we can't forget Joe Rogan popularizing this kind of mysticism that takes this, this sacredness from religion and from from the sacred figures and replaces it with psychedelics are where all and the aliens are, where all the Knowledge and mysticism originates.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, that's a part of it, and I'm not. I'm not saying that Joe Rogan is bad or anything but, but that's the current Syob currently underway. Barry and Sherry Stiger also point out that there's a very influential Organization called the human potential foundation and they say, quote this was primarily funded by Lawrence Rockefeller, who encouraged its study of alternative religions, a religious and psychiatric, psychiatric, psychological paradigms. Similarly, lawrence cooperated closely with the BSW foundation, headed by wealthy New Yorkers, sandra Wright, houghton and Bootsie Galbraith, who shared his belief that ETs are benevolent and have come to help human. The human species ascend the Evolutionary ladder more rapidly, and quote. So that's just from a quick thing. The human potential Foundation grew out of the Esalen Institute, which itself grew out of the Tavistakian operations, which we're gonna look at.
Speaker 2:This is a British psychological warfare that was really begun in the 1920s but generated and really organized a new psychological war against the American baby boomers, especially those born after World War two. We're gonna see a little bit more about how that worked, but keep in mind the two themes here are the creation of a drug culture, a culture that thinks that we can attain our spiritual identity and health through various forms of drugs. The other thing is UFOs right and the stripping of nation states. So UFO disclosure, stripping of nation states and billionaires who are tied to something which doesn't seem to be very much in alignment with a love of truth If I think about what I know, about what killed JFK, martin Luther King, bobby Kennedy and everything else.
Speaker 1:There's also the whole environmental earth worship, gaia worship thing in the climate change hoax is kind of connected to all this with all these the earth charter and all of these things. That that's part of the narrative too. But very interesting that you point out John Podesta, hillary Clinton, harry Reid these are the Democrat establishment that are in bed with basically Rockefeller funded NGOs and groups. We're gonna dig deeper into this. I'm gonna do a quick break to talk about the sponsors that are helping Badlands and and all of us can can work with these Patriots In a parallel economy. Here I'm gonna show a graphic for the Mid-Atlantic Business Alliance, david Becker. He wants to know are you self-employed and shouldering hefty health insurance costs? Because the cost of medical insurance can often be like a second mortgage payment. You might be tempted to cut corners, but Obamacare coverage will leave you with unlimited liability in the event of a large claim. So MetaShare plans are not insurance and they can leave you responsible for other people's claims. Fortunately, there's a sensible solution. For over 30 years, david Becker of Mid-Atlantic Business Alliance has been helping self-employed individuals save money and get better insurance. If you don't have a PPO, you don't have full protection. You don't have full protection. So Mid-Atlantic Business Alliance specializes in providing top-of-the-line PPO coverage at affordable group rates. If you are paying for your own medical insurance, give David a call at 609-577-8557.
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Speaker 2:No, we really can't. And I mean, keep in mind, it has been revealed books have been written about this that the entire Hollywood industry was weaponized by the CIA throughout the Cold War. And if people think that the movies like what is it that selects and funds the scripts that are then shaping our zeitgeist, that become our culture, that have certain messaging and Trojan horses that we're willing to take in with a movie, then we that we wouldn't if somebody was just telling us to believe certain things, because obviously movies are something that we let our sentinels of reason go to sleep on because we think it's just there for entertainment. But whether it's, you know, planet of the Apes, soylent Green, way Back Before Many of Us Were Born, or 2001,.
Speaker 2:A Space Odyssey, or even the more recent films, the dystopic images of the future that are always sort of conveyed, or the story lines, the subplots, the view of human nature, this was a good chance, a very good chance. The CIA, directly selected, promoted this in order to bring us to a certain effect for political reasons. That's a very important thing to keep in mind. This is not an objective place where we can't, sometimes it's really obvious.
Speaker 1:You know. Sometimes it's really obvious, like 007, the cool British secret agent that kills the evil Russian spy, but sometimes it's just shaping our perceptions about what aliens are, you know, like.
Speaker 2:Steven Spielberg's films.
Speaker 2:Well, that actually transitions to the next segment, I think, which gets into a little bit more of some interesting weeds that deal with British intelligence. I have alluded to Tabasthok already. The British psychological warfare division of the Ministry of Defense you just referred to. James Bond Ian Fleming, keep in mind was an MI6 high-level operative who worked very closely with people like William Stevenson, the Canadian-British grand spy who worked with Churchill to set up things like Camp X that integrated US intelligence in 1940 during World War II, with British intelligence in Canada shaping things, training, assassinations, covert operations, black operations, psyops, everything. And these were the same individuals who were directly working to purge the OSS after World War II of its patriots, disband the OSS after FDR was dead and then create the CIA itself in 1947. So the figure that is going to play a very important role in the next segment of the story is Sir Henry Tizard, who I mentioned very briefly at the end of last week's show.
Speaker 2:Sir Henry Tizard was the chairman of Defense Research Policy Committee of the UK's Ministry of Defense during and then after World War II. He was the foreign secretary to the British Royal Society and in that function from 1940 to 45, he worked with Lord Loughian, the British Ambassador to America, leading Milner Roundtable Acolyte in the British Embassy in Washington, and it was in that function that he helped reorganize American military and science to bring in private contractors more and integrate British intelligence into that mix. Now the one thing that brings him in in a very interesting way is he was also the head, the initiator and head of the UK's Ministry of Defense Taxpayer-funded Flying Saucer Working Group, the biggest to that time government-funded and directed flying saucer working group from 1949 to 50. Was this a?
Speaker 1:secret military op thing.
Speaker 2:Well, this is public. So the public was kept abreast of the findings of the work of the Flying Saucer Working Group and this is part of the thing that drove the hysteria and the population that. Well, if our government is willing to spend so much money investigating these unidentified objects that all of a sudden people are seeing all over the place after World War II, after the German rocket scientists and aerospace scientists are brought in to US and British military R&D and with all of the classified research that they had been doing for the Nazis, you know the Horton Brothers, the Victor Schaubergers, all of them were all absorbed. It wasn't just Vernevon Braun, but it was thousands with cutting-edge classified German tech that was being absorbed by the British, by the Americans. Area 51 came out of that as the primary research and testing center in America for this. There were several other nodes in the United States, there was one in Britain. But all of a sudden civilians were looking out their windows at night and seeing a lot of very unidentified things that they were reporting to the police. Pilots, including military pilots who were not vetted for security clearance, were looking out their planes while they were flying and they were seeing unidentified objects that were breaking the known rules of mechanics, and so they were reporting these things. So all of a sudden, you have a government funded, british government funded working group to investigate flying saucers. And well, that validated it in the minds of a lot of newspaper readers of Britain and America and the fact that Sir Henry Tizard is the guy. This is the guy. Who's the one in charge? Now Naomi Klein, because who's Tizard really? Naomi Klein is somebody I don't really like her politics, but she wrote a good book in 2006 called the Shocked Doctor, and People Can Buy it on Amazon and she describes Henry Tizard. She says one of the most controversial meetings that Tizard had to attend in his capacity as the chair of the National Research Commission would only emerge many years later with the declassification of CIA documents, namely a meeting on June 1st 1951 at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Montreal, canada, between Tizard, oman Salant that is, chairman of the Defense, research and Development of Canada and representatives of the CIA to discuss the topic of brainwashing. Now, keep in mind, oman Salant is a guy who worked with Pierre Lietrudot a little bit later on to create the Canadian Club of Rome. That's a whole show unto itself. Now you have this guy. Tizard is part of the initiating meeting with, as we now later know, dulles was very much involved with that. Sydney Gottlieb, the CIA psychiatrist who was in charge of MKUltra, was a big leader of this, but Tizard is the initiator of what becomes MKUltra. This was only revealed with the Church Committee hearings to Americans in 1975 as being something which experimented on tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of citizens A lot of them were American in psychiatric hospitals, schools, maternity wards, everything else and schools, universities where they had people like the Unabomber. Young Ted Kaczynski was part of an MKUltra experiment at Harvard that shaped his identity. So let's just quickly take a moment here, with MKUltra being initiated by the same guy who's initiating the Flying Saucer Working Group Party.
Speaker 2:Mkultra is run by and there's a team that plays a very big role in the corruption of US intelligence called the Office of Policy Coordination. This is the psychological warfare, dirty tricks branch of the CIA. Some of the key figures will be Alan Dulles, who's the CIA director from 1953 to 61, overseeing this. Richard Bissell, who's CIA, the head of the, the OPC and head of Area 51. So Richard Bissell is working with Alan Dulles. He's put in charge of Area 51. You have Joseph Bryan III, who's a CIA OPC director, and Roscoe Hillencoter, also a CIA director from 47 to 50.
Speaker 2:There's others. There's another guy named General Charles Cabell, who's deputy director of Central Intelligence from 53 to 62. And Cabell works with Sir Henry Tizard on creating an American branch of the UK Flying Saucer Working Party and in America, under the leadership of Charles Cabell, it's called Project Blue Book, active between 1952 and 1969. It's a very long-standing US government taxpayer-funded program to investigate flying saucers. One thing that's noteworthy is that Charles Cabell's brother is the mayor of Dallas, texas, overseeing the hit killing John F Kennedy.
Speaker 2:Charles Cabell himself comes from a long freemasonic family of confederate leaders. His father was a unrepentant, unreconstructed confederate and, as we've discussed in previous shows, this was part of British intelligence operations to divide and conquer, breakup America back in the 1860s. So Charles Cabell is fired by John F Kennedy, as is Alan Dulles and as is Richard Bessel in 1961. Why? Because all three of these individuals are going behind JFK's back, organizing the Bay of Pigs, which was initiated by Eisenhower on his last moments that he signed off on. Jfk didn't even know about this stuff. These guys were organizing it in order to carry out what was called the executive action program. The executive action. This is a program that their, their OPC office of policy coordination, created to topple leaders from power who were troublesome. This also includes JFK was a victim of executive action. At the time, castro was on the hit list, so was Patrice Lumumba, jacobo Arbenz of Guatemala, the Iraqi government, president DM of South Vietnam was also killed by these these forces directly.
Speaker 1:Right now, I have an image. These characters, these characters are Operatives that have these multiple missions. One you just talked about was trauma-based mind control. Another is, you know to me what seems like more of an To find out what does the public know about this stuff, rather than trying to find out, oh, what can the public teach us about what's going on? It's more like what? What does the public even? What's, what's getting out into the public consciousness and how can we cover it up? Maybe? And then, of course, assassinations and these political plots. So it's the same characters the intelligence agencies and the UK infiltrated into the CIA that are doing these multiple things.
Speaker 1:So I want to ask you real quick, before you go on about the overlap between brainwashing, mk, ultra trauma-based mind control and UFOs and Hollywood and everything that were taught about aliens, because when I was a kid watching the X-Files, I had night terrors. I was a really young kid when that show was out. I probably shouldn't have been allowed to watch it. But I Feel like, if you asked anyone in the whole planet what's the first thing you think of when you think of aliens? It's like the movie aliens, where there's a mucus covered, this demon figure, and they're like there's fear, right? So could you talk about the overlap between trauma-based mind control and the UFO stuff?
Speaker 2:Well, I think it was observed early on and this is what Tabistock was created was Through the recognition that those who had shell shock and deep trauma were better. Now we're more malleable people and they discovered a lot of getting pigs to work with after World War one and shell shock Victims coming home World War two also, you know. And people found that these psychiatrists found that those who had been through deep trauma were more inclined to compartmentalize their minds, compartmentalize the, the horrific memories they couldn't process and and you could and they were like well, we can work with that. We can work with that. We can create even new types of trauma. I Would say even the whole danger of nuclear annihilation that had kids every day doing nuclear war drills under their desks In the 1950s and 60s.
Speaker 2:This is a form of deep trauma for the baby boomers, the, the films, increasingly the, the whole emergence of horror that is putting us, putting ourselves willfully through psychological torture by watching innocent people brutally murdered in horror movies. That was not something that was just a naturally occurring phenomenon. Right that came out through the 1970s and You'll find that there are Satanists. There are Satanists working with Psychiatrists that are affiliated with this whole MKL to program and the CIA Putting the money into the scripts and trying to create a new type of cultural environment. I think the, the UFO, sort of the, the emergent, the merge between sci-fi, which could be a good thing sci-fi, right, it could give us hope and optimism and I, of what the future could be but the merging of that with horror through things like aliens and low-quality, like things like x-files, which did give me like dream horror, dreams too, as well nightmares there's. There's definitely a factor in that and they're not thinking about us individually, it's always thinking about how do you take the zeitgeist as a whole and influence it.
Speaker 2:Now, to pull back a little bit, a part of the, there was recently a declassified CIA report that went through in 1954, when the CIA overthrew these characters that I just introduced. When they overthrew President, our bends of Guatemala, one of the scenarios that was being floated was, if possible, and I quote, fabricate big human interest story like flying saucers, to take play out, to take the play away, so to diverge people's attention away from the actual coup d'etat being initiated in Guatemala. They were saying, well, let's put, promote flying saucers. There is another idea that involved using lights in in Cuba to convince the Cubans that there was an alien invasion as Fidel Castro was being overthrown. That was another scenario being floated and that has been since declassified, so that this has been used for political reasons, for social, experimental reasons. But I think the thing that's very useful to keep in mind is that I Mentioned of this team, joseph Brian the third, as well as Roscoe Hillencoater, were both directors of an organization that was the, the national independent counsel on alien disclosures.
Speaker 2:That was running from like 1954 all the way up until 1975 or so, and these were were mouthpieces who were popularizing the fact that otherworldly Beings have been interfacing with us. Greer, for example Stephen Greer, who's again working for the Lawrence Rockefeller disclosure project, has been doing things like saying that All of the tech we've been using, all of the advanced tech, actually does not come from human beings. It all comes from us having found reverse engineered material from Roswell, when it were. Somehow these, these Aliens, were able to develop technologies that could again travel light years, and then they just crash when I got to earth, or crashing to a windmill in the 1890s, and We've been reverse engineering that.
Speaker 2:Or we found tech on on the moon of advanced alien bases, and and that's what we've been Covering up as far as something Greer is actually saying and popularizing this is actually things that people are being fed. So you have these, these high-level people who are getting fired by JFK for having run assassinations of world leaders, who are anti imperial, overthrowing governments illegally, using UFO stories, and also what later I think in our current age we could see is project blue beam, a new something that emerged or went public in the 90s as A technique to use advanced holographic technology to showcase in the sky imagery that would then convince A traumatized population that aliens are upon us, whether for good or for bad, according to Jake Sullivan, in an interview that he gave, into 2021 they he described how Lovely it would be to get the population to rally around, something like Independence Day, the Will Smith movie from 1996, where aliens invaded in.
Speaker 1:Americans rally together to fight off the aliens with F-16 fighter jets and had that in a speech about all, all the sovereign countries Uniting against an alien force.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, and Werner von Braun warned about that. He said you know, the oligarchy will eventually Play the alien card to to manipulate humanity. And I think you know Reagan, as a Hollywood film director, went through a culture in Hollywood which made him a good guy. I think he's a good guy, I like Reagan, but he was soft-minded when it came to a lot of things, as was Carter. Carter was a total like devotee of UFO disclosure as well and believe that he saw multiple UFOs, and he probably did. You know, that's the thing. Like people are looking out out their window and they're seeing these.
Speaker 2:Victor Schauberger flunk. Because, victor, there's declassified Documents that show the flying saucer technology that the Germans were building in the in the 40s under the designs of people like Victor Schauberger, which was utilizing implosion versus explosion technology. That is next gen. It's cutting-edge aerospace material, but under the veil of the Cold War and the iron curtain, everything was classified right. So whether it's the Horton Brothers flying discs, whether it was the Victor Schauberger flying saucers, this was being used reverse. That was being a reverse engineer. That's true.
Speaker 2:But people are looking at what the hell they're seeing. Yeah, why?
Speaker 1:Military research especially. You mentioned the Nazis. They easily could have won World War II. They put a lot of R&D into this type of tech and so the fact that the UK and the US absorbed all those researchers and all that classified tech, that shouldn't be ignored. We shouldn't just always be accepting this PSYOP that all advanced tech comes from off planet. I mean it's really kind of absurd when you look at the opposite scenario, that what we've been discussing the idea that humans innovated and it's been hidden that's a lot more plausible. I mean not to discount the other side, but it seems like this type of concept of hidden, suppressed technology within the military industrial complex is originated from humans. That's not discussed in our popular culture.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great question and it's so important that people again have, like we began our segment today focus on well, what are the real priorities? Where is the real, what's really valuable in this fight to think about? Where do I have to prioritize in order to understand how to navigate through this mind field and put out the fire? I think one thing to keep in mind is that self-reflection, self-examination, is key in everything we only can be. We're susceptible to the type of Edward Bernays manipulation of the subtle sort of subconscious forces if we don't self-reflect and if we allow these unresolved subconscious material to go on and bubble away and be influenced by forces that won't be from our own free will, our own free agency. So that's the beauty of human self-examination of our passions, our thoughts, our ideas, our convictions.
Speaker 2:And Bertrand Russell, a leading social engineer, a very evil, evil character, once made a point that in the perfect scientific dictatorship, the masses will have convictions and passions and they will have no idea who put them there.
Speaker 2:And that's part of how this thing works.
Speaker 2:So number two is, I think, just appreciating that the oligarchy behind all of these things is desperately petrified of the very reality that we are made in the image of God and we can act according to that higher principle that is discoverable, that the founding fathers understood that we are made in the living image of a living, loving, reasonable God that is rational but is not separate from us, and that when we are instruments of God's will, we are doing good, we're acting in accordance with our conscience, we're developing our muscles of reason in accordance with a conscious compass and we're making policies, as we get better at that, that will create laws and programs that will affect the lives not only of many people around us but also people into the future in ways that will increase their powers of accessing their higher genius and people like John F Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Franklin Roosevelt, Lincoln.
Speaker 2:If you read their speeches and you look at what they did you know words and actions you'll find that they were all like drinking from that source and that gave them the strength to face even mortal death in order to satisfy their higher needs for their soul and what they need to be true. So the oligarchy has been trying to obscure that and to break that away in order to create a new set of synthetic religions that might have a sort of veneer of Christianity.
Speaker 2:But with the you know, but in reality it would be like, well, jesus was actually an alien, or interfacing with aliens, and that's what they want to remix for the new great narratives that will be more yeah, let's talk about Elon Musk's narrative here, because I mean, I like what he's doing with Twitter less censorship there.
Speaker 1:But you know he has this kind of narrative about the future of humanity colonizing Mars, going to the stars like this is the goal, like this is the end. All be all, this is the most humanity can hope to do. And I'm noticing that kind of narrative from the regular suspects that, oh, earth is a throwaway planet, it's doomed, and that sort of thing. So obviously humans have this innate need for transcendence and so forth, but the elite are kind of like gearing that or guiding that human nature to view that transcendence, instead of to heaven or to creating a heaven on Earth, to this colonizing Mars or whatever it might be. So can you comment on that? Because it seems like it relates to the spiritual nature and I'm shocked to hear for the first time that the horror movie industry has to do with Satanists and trauma based mind control. It makes perfect sense. So that's another thing for people to watch out for. If there's something that seems evil like watching people, innocent people being killed in a movie as entertainment, than it's probably is evil.
Speaker 2:Yes, that is right, and don't even get me started on black metal, and people think again, it's difficult, we're touching a nerve, because this is like my culture People are very, very protective of the things that they have emotionally invested in. As far as horror movies that they love. It's a way that I de-stress after work. But, honestly, when you really investigate where these things come from, if you love truth more than you love your personal momentary passions, then you will have to acknowledge and recognize very quickly the hand of very satanic forces that are artificially trying to nudge our entire culture into a new, more acceptable place that would be more befitting for a slave society.
Speaker 1:Management malleable. They're trying to make us complicit in this type of religion. They're initiating us into something satanic by having us, like you said, invest in it and like it and be entertained by something satanic.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. We are being initiated into a low-level, a low-brow version of the Mysteries. That was part of what was organizing the creation of the synthetic cults of the Roman pantheon, the Roman Empire days under the Committee of 15 and the Cult of Apollo, which was sort of the key cult around which subcults were organized. But those who managed the priests that created the priests didn't always necessarily believe in all of the conditions of or the rituals and everything else, but they need to have people in a state where they're deep patterning willfully their own identities in order to shape themselves, adapt into a preformed set of outcomes that you want people to to be. And that's what MKLTRA was you. That's what LSD. When we had LSD all of a sudden appear on the campuses of America, we forget that that was actually Albert Hoffman, who was the world's leading expert on the Ellucian Mysteries, that investigated, that found LSD as an extract from from a wheat blight, which is exactly what was done in the ancient times as well. That allowed for the creation of a deep patterning experience and artificial realities so that everybody could be convinced who went through this process that they are God, that that there is no objective reality, that I am reality, my perceptions are reality. My feelings are reality. That's how woke ism People wonder like how the hell did something is insane as woke ism and transgenderism take control of my school system. That's somehow being backed up by science.
Speaker 2:Well, that's how it happened. We and we let our scientists go through this. I mean they actually put a program to focus on, on, on high level trophies, people in the scientific community, in aerospace astronauts, people in high level politics were put. There was more, more work to put, that was put into giving them this pseudo spiritual experience through a mixture of drugs, transcendental meditation from from Tabas, stock and aliens all together as part of the vanguard that would be needed to drive home the new type of cultural reset that they always wanted to bring on, bring online when the time was right and we'd been traumatized enough, perhaps through the breakdown of a banking system and the destruction of food production systems. That would result in people seeking for meaning in desperation and latching onto the first thing that they could get, as far as lights in the sky, you know people want that transcendent experience, they want a transcendent connection and they end up getting this kind of fast food version of.
Speaker 1:I hate to to to pick on Joe Rogan, but but it is kind of this pop culture, psychedelic stuff that we got shoved down our throats in the 1960s and 70s that's had this reemergence with Terrence McKenna and Joe Rogan and everything that's. Yeah, people, people think that they're going to have a connection with God because they do some type of drug, rather than you know the tried and true ways over thousands of years, through, through prayer, through compassion, through your own connections with family and trusted spiritual guides, instead of some some guy with a beard that might give you drugs and then try to have sex with you at a retreat.
Speaker 2:You're such a square shine Geez. Are you over 30? I heard I shouldn't trust anybody over 30. So that that was part of the programming right, but got the baby. Rumors originally was don't trust anybody, anybody over 30.
Speaker 2:Cut off all the traditions of the family structure, the belief in nationalism, and have a big kumbaya. Get rid of the idea, because the idea is like the family is bigoted, my nation causes wars, my religion is the justification of wars. If we just got rid of these three things, we would have a big kumbaya lovin. And it doesn't really work that way, you see, because religion and nations don't cause wars. Real agendas and stupid people cause wars, and this happens when we dislodge from our higher priority Now to end the.
Speaker 2:I know we have to end this, but on the issue of space, the way I see it, I love space technology. I love JFK's vision, I love the idea of going and becoming a species that that explores the universe as our mandate to constantly lean into the unknown and generate new discoveries that solve problems and maybe even terraform, you know, bring new Eden's to other other planets like terraform, mars. That would require thinking multi-generationally, but I think it's like how you choose to think about that because, for me, I see the universe as God's creation, and so I see the universe as our home. I don't just see earth as solely sorry earth, as as our isolated place, but we can green deserts on earth. We can. We can, as far as I could see it, when we abide by God's law and discover God's creation.
Speaker 2:We have a power of action over nature to be fruitful and multiply without, without a limit, cause why would God have put a cap on like how much we can be fruitful and multiply if we're told, oh, but we have to stay within the bounds of the earth forever? Well, well, I don't see why that should be necessarily so. The universe is like there's more stars, you know, in in our galaxy there's billions of stars with other star systems, and maybe there's life, and maybe there's even intelligent life out there somewhere. That maybe appeared. Maybe it's our mandate to go and discover that and not shut down NASA to to, like you know, build windmills and solar panels everywhere or or militarize space, cause that's part of the thing, right, like we, we shut down NASA, like all of the Russians, and and ask them we have to give the Russians money, or we did up until last year to fly us astronauts to. It's a space Cause we we shut down willfully by these Malthusians who wanted us to like live with less. Back in the seventies we shut it all down.
Speaker 1:That's the weird I'm gonna see, though, isn't it that all of us have to live with less while the billionaires do space tourism? It just doesn't add up. You know, these two contrary philosophies, that everyone needs to suffer and live on less, while while the really rich people ride on rockets for fun. So you know, that's something like you said self-examination rationality. It's gonna help us break out of all of all of these brainwashing techniques, matt. I'm gonna put the links to your work in the description below. People can do further research and we're looking forward to dig deeper on this topic and others. Next week's broadcast of breaking history. God bless all you guys, and we'll see you next time.